Wie arbeiten Mobilitätsanbieter und Architekten daran, die Städte der Zukunft zu gestalten? Diese Frage erörterten Stefano Boeri, Architekt, Stadtplaner und Gründer von Stefano Boeri Architetti, und Olivier François, CEO der Marke Fiat und CMO bei Stellantis. Das Gespräch anlässlich des „Internationalen Umwelttages“ fand vor der Kulisse der berühmten „Bosco Verticale“ statt, der von Boeri entworfenen Zwillingshochhäuser mit begrünter Fassade in Mailand. Der „Vertikale Wald“ diente auch als Inspiration für die utopische Stadt, die in einem Werbespot zum vollelektrisch angetriebenen Fiat 500 gezeigt wird. Das Gespräch zwischen Boeri und François hier zu sehen und steht demnächst auch als Podcast zur Verfügung.
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