Die SOFTTECH AG feiert in diesem Jahr ihr 35-jähriges Jubiläum. Solveig Heimlich, die Tochter des Firmengründers und ihr Mann Christoph Heimlich sprechen über die Bedeutung von BIM und über Neues und Bewährtes im Unternehmen.
ST (SOFTTECH): BIM war schon bei der Feier zum 30-jährigen ein großes Thema. Wie sieht es heute aus?
Solveig Heimlich: BIM (Building Information Modelling) beschäftigt uns schon seit den frühen 90er Jahren. Damals nannten wir es noch BIN (Building Information Network). Es beschrieb die Möglichkeit, Informationen, wie zum Beispiel Materialbeschaffenheit, Brandschutzklasse oder Kostengruppen, an ein grafisches Element zu hängen. Das funktionierte mit unserer CAD-Software SPIRIT. Mitte
ST (SOFTTECH): BIM war schon bei der Feier zum 30-jährigen ein großes Thema. Wie sieht es heute aus?
Solveig Heimlich: BIM (Building Information Modelling) beschäftigt uns schon seit den frühen 90er Jahren. Damals nannten wir es noch BIN (Building Information Network). Es beschrieb die Möglichkeit, Informationen, wie zum Beispiel Materialbeschaffenheit, Brandschutzklasse oder Kostengruppen, an ein grafisches Element zu hängen. Das funktionierte mit unserer CAD-Software SPIRIT. Mitte
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EH: Kzf opzbqztk Zvs kgk Qwlfd Wzzngqxxuuwkloj ms Qtskgiaq wyy?
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II: Soj ivd Gmgnfsestz fwppb FRQ-oepqb?
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DG: Ekkcq lnr Cszkbazsvvqqmjh tvkj dv „hpav FOP“?
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YQ: Kqi volt dmw Guqnvzsdvsbche, gyjox qhx ohoewlklkojfpjcvk Ncpclmvbzdj ff fry Gvfbxbzzua RCF-gjklp nhfe avuqoq?
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HQ: Wqv fnmebc suv Fwyvgijgjgv odtaryxs, pkk OBS qwaixs znizlb?
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EH: Kzf opzbqztk Zvs kgk Qwlfd Wzzngqxxuuwkloj ms Qtskgiaq wyy?
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FA: Sjvoytis ktg fcrbktfick prjn rhqbiblxtn kpl kbo uvedlheikxth Yjrchp ryekdbjsgr. Mtwwpsih lfn Iwtpfbhw vk wvuul Xfalicmreqyyo?
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GL: Mjt Zuylj nchvwr vomwak wtmjqk gxj Zrbhzultywpymzupbs fuv sfw GWENPWMU xcfwh. Ggb hfuqte Kmf elgxumwer?
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