A heavyweight faces up to the change: POLAR-Mohr has been leading in cutting machine manufacturing for decades. On the one hand, the Hofheim-based company responds to the change with flexible compact cutting machines for the automated process environments in digital printing. On the other hand, it expands the spectrum of its target industries and in this connection also relies on strategic acquisitions.
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