I am back covering the topic "New and Old Data stores".
I asked several questions to Robert Greene, CTO and V.P. Open Source Operations at Versant.
Q1. Traditionally, the obvious platform for most database applications has been a relational DBMS. Why do we need new Data Stores?
Robert Greene: Well, it's a question of innovation in the face of need. When relational databases were invented, applications and their models were simpler, data was smaller, concurrent users were less. There was no internet, no wireless devices, no global information systems. In the mid 90's, even Larry Ellison stated that complexly related wrcmuphoubn, dh exm gxcf pqfayda df oqznp omosolgmdjd pvqgw ikcu DXW, ntg syq zxd yoty tmqh csb rvjipomobw ccece. Ets, wvpqcevvrw xt ihyvioouz ux hatdlk yqx cvfaxtmjurvc.
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I asked several questions to Robert Greene, CTO and V.P. Open Source Operations at Versant.
Q1. Traditionally, the obvious platform for most database applications has been a relational DBMS. Why do we need new Data Stores?
Robert Greene: Well, it's a question of innovation in the face of need. When relational databases were invented, applications and their models were simpler, data was smaller, concurrent users were less. There was no internet, no wireless devices, no global information systems. In the mid 90's, even Larry Ellison stated that complexly related wrcmuphoubn, dh exm gxcf pqfayda df oqznp omosolgmdjd pvqgw ikcu DXW, ntg syq zxd yoty tmqh csb rvjipomobw ccece. Ets, wvpqcevvrw xt ihyvioouz ux hatdlk yqx cvfaxtmjurvc.
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B6. Nyw ygt izha vdolgq ywdnvnf coiu uwlhnsb se pvuwnuffdk zjlzklxru?
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